

Buyers often ask for “a downpipe machine” while holding several finished sizes (for example YX144×108 vs YX76.8–105) or an English down-take quotation. This page states the discipline: do not mix those specification tiers. Each size / language quote is a different proposal with its own roll set and conflict notes.
Industry articles likewise stress that round versus rectangular pipes and different cross-sections need matching tooling or cassette changeovers — the commercial answer must name the target section first.
Inside this pack the documented siblings are YX144×108, YX76.8–105 (two Chinese quotes with shaft/thickness conflicts), and the English down-take pair (main-motor conflict; hydraulic kW blocked). Treat each row below as a closed proposal island.
If the inquiry only says “downpipe” without a section drawing, stop and request the finished size before quoting speed or power.
Goal: one named section drawing → one named proposal tier → one published numeric answer.
| Tier | Speed | Main / hyd | Passes / shaft | Thickness | Open conflicts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| YX144×108 | About 8–10 m/min | About 4 / 3 kW | About 19H + vertical; φ70; envelope about 17000×1200×1400 mm | About 0.5–0.8 mm | Panasonic PLC / Sanjing inverter wording on that quote |
| YX76.8–105 | About 8–10 m/min | About 4 / 3 kW | About 19H + vertical; φ60 vs φ70 dual-write | 0.6–0.7 vs 0.5–0.8 mm dual-write | Two Chinese quotes disagree — contract decides |
| English down-take | About 10 m/min | Main 5.5 vs 7.5 kW dual-write; hyd blocked | About 18 passes; φ80; 350# H frame | About 0.47–0.8 mm GI | Do not force Chinese hyd 3 kW into English sheets |
Optional bender about 2.2 kW / about 90° applies across these tiers as an auxiliary — still not a reason to merge host motors.
Controls also differ by tier (Panasonic vs Delta class wording; inverter brands dual-written on English sheets). When answering “what PLC,” name the proposal language the customer holds.
Default: one host per frozen section, or a written multi-cassette proposal. Do not assume free mixing.
The thickness band of the named tier. For YX76, keep the dual-write visible until the contract picks one.
No. Different documents. List both or pick the proposal language the customer signed.
No. That outline is cited on YX144 / YX76 Chinese wording. English down-take leaves whole-line envelope blocked — do not copy it across.
Final ratings follow the confirmed technical proposal. Price and lead time are out of scope.